Ken: Fred Savage was it?
Wendi: Yeah, yeah, Fred Savage. What was his name in that show?
Ken: I actually never really watched that show. No, I've seen a couple of reruns.
Wendi: I know he had a crush on some girl names Wendi but I can't recall what his name was, but I has such a huge mad crush on him.
Ken: It's that show with the little kid, but like someone else, like the adult's like recounting his childhood.
Wendi: Yeah, I think so.
Ken: Like there's a narrator in the back.
Wendi: I think so. Yeah. I think so. But then, that whole thing just broke down when I saw Austin Powers, and "Mole, Mole, Mole, Mole".
Ken: Was that him?
Wendi: Yeah.
Ken: That was him?
Wendi: It's the same guy and he's an adult and he's not attractive or cute whatsoever and so I just feel really betrayed.
Wendi: OK, so I told you about an actor I had a crush on when I was young. So what show did you grow up on that you totally had a crush on - one of the actresses?
Ken: Unfortunately. Unfortunately, I was banned from watching TV as a child.
Wendi: Are you serious?
Ken: Yeah, so.
Wendi: Were you really?
Ken: I did not grow up watching TV. Yeah. I was not raised on TV.
Wendi: You weren't raised on TV at all?
Ken: Not at all.
Wendi: So, were taking Monday to Friday, no TV?
Ken: I'm talking I had to, like while my mom was cooking dinner, I could like turn the volume really low on a nine inch black and white TV and maybe catch five minutes of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or something.
Wendi: Are you serious?
Ken: That's how bad it was.
Wendi: That's shocking.
Ken: That is, yeah.
Wendi: Yeah, so then at like what age did you, because you know how to work a computer quite well, when did you learn all this stuff?
Ken: I guess once my brother and sister started growing up, then my mom, you know, let me have a little bit more freedom.
Wendi: Yeah. Yeah.
Ken: We got our first computer. I was more into computer than TV, initially.
Wendi: Yeah.
Ken: And the first Tv show I watched regularly must have been like the Simpsons, probably.
Wendi: How old were you?
Ken: I can't remember. Probably, seventh, eight grade.
Wendi: Oh, yeah.
Ken: So thirteen or fourteen years old.
Wendi: Crazy. Crazy. That's amazing.
Ken: Yeah.